Why doesn't natvps support Chinese IP?

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  • Is it legal for Starbucks to reject Chinese tourists to buy cups of coffee, if he want?
    If yes,you are the boss, If not, what is the difference?

    @havoc said:
    Providers are entitled to not serve particular markets for whatever reason they like. It's business not a united nations equality summit.

  • @hunewton said: what is the difference?

    I can re-post it as many times as you can play ignorance.

    What part about "you're extremely problematic, time demanding and costly clientele" you don't understand? A bit of self-awareness wouldn't do any harm. Let me quote post from above:

    To give some stats:

    20% of all Accepted orders from China result in chargebacks/disputes

    60% of order attempts from China are using false billing details and/or Proxy services to order.

    30% of all Accepted orders from China breach our TOS causing Abuse reports, DMCA takedowns and other manual cleanup tasks.
    This really isn't profitable for us, in fact during the times we have had large amounts of orders from this region we have made a net loss.

    It is very unlikely that we will accept our standard orders from China again although we are looking at the feasibility of setting up a sister company aimed specifically at this region however we will not be accepting any forms of reversible payments and we will NOT be offering these services from UK based nodes.

    We hate having this blanket ban in place. It is simply unfair for our clients that reside in China however at this time we simply have no choice.

    We also have the issue of clients in China consistently attempting to order when their first order has been marked as fraud, in some cases placing up to 60 fraudulent orders. This burns through stock levels preventing genuine clients from ordering services.

    Situation sucks for genuine, non problematic clients from China for sure, but refusing to deal with all this shit above is not racist. It's just protecting your own business from being burned again and again and again.

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  • @hunewton said:
    Is it legal for Starbucks to reject Chinese tourists to buy cups of coffee, if he want?
    If yes,you are the boss, If not, what is the difference?
    @hunewton said:
    Is it legal for Starbucks to reject Chinese tourists to buy cups of coffee, if he want?
    If yes,you are the boss, If not, what is the difference?

    coffee ≠ VPS

    Also, it is nonsense to confuse buying goods by visiting a physical store with buying digital services from abroad.

  • I am not talking to you, Repeator, and dont want to.

    @Mumbly said:

    @hunewton said: what is the difference?

    I can re-post it as many times as you can play ignorance.

    What part about "you're extremely problematic, time demanding and costly clientele" you don't understand? A bit of self-awareness wouldn't do any harm. Let me quote post from above:

    To give some stats:

    20% of all Accepted orders from China result in chargebacks/disputes

    60% of order attempts from China are using false billing details and/or Proxy services to order.

    30% of all Accepted orders from China breach our TOS causing Abuse reports, DMCA takedowns and other manual cleanup tasks.
    This really isn't profitable for us, in fact during the times we have had large amounts of orders from this region we have made a net loss.

    It is very unlikely that we will accept our standard orders from China again although we are looking at the feasibility of setting up a sister company aimed specifically at this region however we will not be accepting any forms of reversible payments and we will NOT be offering these services from UK based nodes.

    We hate having this blanket ban in place. It is simply unfair for our clients that reside in China however at this time we simply have no choice.

    We also have the issue of clients in China consistently attempting to order when their first order has been marked as fraud, in some cases placing up to 60 fraudulent orders. This burns through stock levels preventing genuine clients from ordering services.

    Situation sucks for genuine, non problematic clients from China for sure, but refusing to deal with all this shit above is not racist. It's just protecting your own business from being burned again and again and again.

  • @AuroraZero said:
    Ukraine War

    And possible Taiwan war in future.

    Stacksocial link (aff) containing a gift of $10 after your first purchase.

  • @hunewton said:
    I am not talking to you, Repeator, and dont want to.

    You’re on a forum, you’re talking to everyone whether you like it or or not, sweetcheeks. Now stop being a bellend drama queen, no-one cares if you’re unwilling to accept the reason why the provider made the decision.

  • dont represent anyone else,be yourself

    @Nekki said:

    @hunewton said:
    I am not talking to you, Repeator, and dont want to.

    You’re on a forum, you’re talking to everyone whether you like it or or not, sweetcheeks. Now stop being a bellend drama queen, no-one cares if you’re unwilling to accept the reason why the provider made the decision.

  • I do know coffee ≠ VPS, but what is the difference in law?

    @tototo said:

    @hunewton said:
    Is it legal for Starbucks to reject Chinese tourists to buy cups of coffee, if he want?
    If yes,you are the boss, If not, what is the difference?
    @hunewton said:
    Is it legal for Starbucks to reject Chinese tourists to buy cups of coffee, if he want?
    If yes,you are the boss, If not, what is the difference?

    coffee ≠ VPS

    Also, it is nonsense to confuse buying goods by visiting a physical store with buying digital services from abroad.

  • @hunewton said:
    dont represent anyone else,be yourself

    @Nekki said:

    @hunewton said:
    I am not talking to you, Repeator, and dont want to.

    You’re on a forum, you’re talking to everyone whether you like it or or not, sweetcheeks. Now stop being a bellend drama queen, no-one cares if you’re unwilling to accept the reason why the provider made the decision.

    I assure you, I genuinely believe you’re a bellend.

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  • get a mirror,then you can get a bellend

    @Nekki said:

    @hunewton said:
    dont represent anyone else,be yourself

    @Nekki said:

    @hunewton said:
    I am not talking to you, Repeator, and dont want to.

    You’re on a forum, you’re talking to everyone whether you like it or or not, sweetcheeks. Now stop being a bellend drama queen, no-one cares if you’re unwilling to accept the reason why the provider made the decision.

    I assure you, I genuinely believe you’re a bellend.

  • @hunewton said:
    I do know coffee ≠ VPS, but what is the difference in law?

    There are lots of laws around food preparation for one. Also, a provider of coffee isn't legally required to know their customer, so it's alright for purchasers of coffee to lie about their identity when ordering, but it's not when ordering a VPS.

  • NekkiNekki OG
    edited December 2022

    @hunewton said:
    get a mirror,then you can get a bellend

    @Nekki said:

    @hunewton said:
    dont represent anyone else,be yourself

    @Nekki said:

    @hunewton said:
    I am not talking to you, Repeator, and dont want to.

    You’re on a forum, you’re talking to everyone whether you like it or or not, sweetcheeks. Now stop being a bellend drama queen, no-one cares if you’re unwilling to accept the reason why the provider made the decision.

    I assure you, I genuinely believe you’re a bellend.

    I know you are but what am I, etc?

    Come back when you’ve got some bantz, cheesemitt.

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  • edited December 2022

    @hunewton said: I do know coffee ≠ VPS, but what is the difference in law?

    What law? Chinese? American? Botswanian?

    I am not familiar with Chinese legislation, but then again, if US or EU company does not do businnes with Chinese clientele this should not be a problem, right?

  • natvps_uknatvps_uk Hosting Provider

    @Mumbly said:

    @hunewton said: I do know coffee ≠ VPS, but what is the difference in law?

    What law? Chinese? American? Botswanian?

    I am not familiar with Chinese legislation, but then again, if US or EU company does not do businnes with Chinese clientele this should not be a problem, right?

    It’s not that we don’t want to do Business it’s just not feasible with the current setup.

    We’re doing everything we can to allow orders from China again and we should have a solution soon.

  • appreciate that

    @natvps_uk said:

    @Mumbly said:

    @hunewton said: I do know coffee ≠ VPS, but what is the difference in law?

    What law? Chinese? American? Botswanian?

    I am not familiar with Chinese legislation, but then again, if US or EU company does not do businnes with Chinese clientele this should not be a problem, right?

    It’s not that we don’t want to do Business it’s just not feasible with the current setup.

    We’re doing everything we can to allow orders from China again and we should have a solution soon.

  • @hunewton said:
    dont represent anyone else,be yourself

    @Nekki said:

    @hunewton said:
    I am not talking to you, Repeator, and dont want to.

    You’re on a forum, you’re talking to everyone whether you like it or or not, sweetcheeks. Now stop being a bellend drama queen, no-one cares if you’re unwilling to accept the reason why the provider made the decision.

    dirty talker xxx

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  • cant understand, so enjoy youself, bloody bellend

    @Nekki said:

    @hunewton said:
    get a mirror,then you can get a bellend

    @Nekki said:

    @hunewton said:
    dont represent anyone else,be yourself

    @Nekki said:

    @hunewton said:
    I am not talking to you, Repeator, and dont want to.

    You’re on a forum, you’re talking to everyone whether you like it or or not, sweetcheeks. Now stop being a bellend drama queen, no-one cares if you’re unwilling to accept the reason why the provider made the decision.

    I assure you, I genuinely believe you’re a bellend.

    I know you are but what am I, etc?

    Come back when you’ve got some bantz, cheesemitt.

  • @hunewton said:
    cant understand, so enjoy youself, bloody bellend

    @Nekki said:

    @hunewton said:
    get a mirror,then you can get a bellend

    @Nekki said:

    @hunewton said:
    dont represent anyone else,be yourself

    @Nekki said:

    @hunewton said:
    I am not talking to you, Repeator, and dont want to.

    You’re on a forum, you’re talking to everyone whether you like it or or not, sweetcheeks. Now stop being a bellend drama queen, no-one cares if you’re unwilling to accept the reason why the provider made the decision.

    I assure you, I genuinely believe you’re a bellend.

    I know you are but what am I, etc?

    Come back when you’ve got some bantz, cheesemitt.

    I am, you absolute melt. Can’t you tell.

  • cant understand either. Your language seems come from drain, too hard for me

    @Nekki said:

    @hunewton said:
    cant understand, so enjoy youself, bloody bellend

    @Nekki said:

    @hunewton said:
    get a mirror,then you can get a bellend

    @Nekki said:

    @hunewton said:
    dont represent anyone else,be yourself

    @Nekki said:

    @hunewton said:
    I am not talking to you, Repeator, and dont want to.

    You’re on a forum, you’re talking to everyone whether you like it or or not, sweetcheeks. Now stop being a bellend drama queen, no-one cares if you’re unwilling to accept the reason why the provider made the decision.

    I assure you, I genuinely believe you’re a bellend.

    I know you are but what am I, etc?

    Come back when you’ve got some bantz, cheesemitt.

    I am, you absolute melt. Can’t you tell.

  • @hunewton said:
    cant understand either. Your language seems come from drain, too hard for me

    @Nekki said:

    @hunewton said:
    cant understand, so enjoy youself, bloody bellend

    @Nekki said:

    @hunewton said:
    get a mirror,then you can get a bellend

    @Nekki said:

    @hunewton said:
    dont represent anyone else,be yourself

    @Nekki said:

    @hunewton said:
    I am not talking to you, Repeator, and dont want to.

    You’re on a forum, you’re talking to everyone whether you like it or or not, sweetcheeks. Now stop being a bellend drama queen, no-one cares if you’re unwilling to accept the reason why the provider made the decision.

    I assure you, I genuinely believe you’re a bellend.

    I know you are but what am I, etc?

    Come back when you’ve got some bantz, cheesemitt.

    I am, you absolute melt. Can’t you tell.

    I don’t like it, therefore it is racist.

    I don’t understand it, therefore it is drain language.

    You have a seriously narrow world-view, my friend.

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  • The more OP talks the more I'm convinced he's probably banned from other low-end hosts for chargebacks or abuse, and now natvps is in their sights.

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  • Enjoy your broad drain-view.
    btw,Not your friend.

    @Nekki said:

    @hunewton said:
    cant understand either. Your language seems come from drain, too hard for me

    @Nekki said:

    @hunewton said:
    cant understand, so enjoy youself, bloody bellend

    @Nekki said:

    @hunewton said:
    get a mirror,then you can get a bellend

    @Nekki said:

    @hunewton said:
    dont represent anyone else,be yourself

    @Nekki said:

    @hunewton said:
    I am not talking to you, Repeator, and dont want to.

    You’re on a forum, you’re talking to everyone whether you like it or or not, sweetcheeks. Now stop being a bellend drama queen, no-one cares if you’re unwilling to accept the reason why the provider made the decision.

    I assure you, I genuinely believe you’re a bellend.

    I know you are but what am I, etc?

    Come back when you’ve got some bantz, cheesemitt.

    I am, you absolute melt. Can’t you tell.

    I don’t like it, therefore it is racist.

    I don’t understand it, therefore it is drain language.

    You have a seriously narrow world-view, my friend.

  • @hunewton said:
    Enjoy your broad drain-view.
    btw,Not your friend.

    @Nekki said:

    @hunewton said:
    cant understand either. Your language seems come from drain, too hard for me

    @Nekki said:

    @hunewton said:
    cant understand, so enjoy youself, bloody bellend

    @Nekki said:

    @hunewton said:
    get a mirror,then you can get a bellend

    @Nekki said:

    @hunewton said:
    dont represent anyone else,be yourself

    @Nekki said:

    @hunewton said:
    I am not talking to you, Repeator, and dont want to.

    You’re on a forum, you’re talking to everyone whether you like it or or not, sweetcheeks. Now stop being a bellend drama queen, no-one cares if you’re unwilling to accept the reason why the provider made the decision.

    I assure you, I genuinely believe you’re a bellend.

    I know you are but what am I, etc?

    Come back when you’ve got some bantz, cheesemitt.

    I am, you absolute melt. Can’t you tell.

    I don’t like it, therefore it is racist.

    I don’t understand it, therefore it is drain language.

    You have a seriously narrow world-view, my friend.

    How broad can a view of a drain be? Surely it’s not a drain if it’s too broad.

    BTW, we are SO friends now.

  • you are so cheap,so low-end.

    @Nekki said:

    @hunewton said:
    Enjoy your broad drain-view.
    btw,Not your friend.

    @Nekki said:

    @hunewton said:
    cant understand either. Your language seems come from drain, too hard for me

    @Nekki said:

    @hunewton said:
    cant understand, so enjoy youself, bloody bellend

    @Nekki said:

    @hunewton said:
    get a mirror,then you can get a bellend

    @Nekki said:

    @hunewton said:
    dont represent anyone else,be yourself

    @Nekki said:

    @hunewton said:
    I am not talking to you, Repeator, and dont want to.

    You’re on a forum, you’re talking to everyone whether you like it or or not, sweetcheeks. Now stop being a bellend drama queen, no-one cares if you’re unwilling to accept the reason why the provider made the decision.

    I assure you, I genuinely believe you’re a bellend.

    I know you are but what am I, etc?

    Come back when you’ve got some bantz, cheesemitt.

    I am, you absolute melt. Can’t you tell.

    I don’t like it, therefore it is racist.

    I don’t understand it, therefore it is drain language.

    You have a seriously narrow world-view, my friend.

    How broad can a view of a drain be? Surely it’s not a drain if it’s too broad.

    BTW, we are SO friends now.

  • @hunewton said:
    you are so cheap,so low-end.

    @Nekki said:

    @hunewton said:
    Enjoy your broad drain-view.
    btw,Not your friend.

    @Nekki said:

    @hunewton said:
    cant understand either. Your language seems come from drain, too hard for me

    @Nekki said:

    @hunewton said:
    cant understand, so enjoy youself, bloody bellend

    @Nekki said:

    @hunewton said:
    get a mirror,then you can get a bellend

    @Nekki said:

    @hunewton said:
    dont represent anyone else,be yourself

    @Nekki said:

    @hunewton said:
    I am not talking to you, Repeator, and dont want to.

    You’re on a forum, you’re talking to everyone whether you like it or or not, sweetcheeks. Now stop being a bellend drama queen, no-one cares if you’re unwilling to accept the reason why the provider made the decision.

    I assure you, I genuinely believe you’re a bellend.

    I know you are but what am I, etc?

    Come back when you’ve got some bantz, cheesemitt.

    I am, you absolute melt. Can’t you tell.

    I don’t like it, therefore it is racist.

    I don’t understand it, therefore it is drain language.

    You have a seriously narrow world-view, my friend.

    How broad can a view of a drain be? Surely it’s not a drain if it’s too broad.

    BTW, we are SO friends now.

    Which is why you love me, right? I bet you want to spit in my mouth and tell me I’m scum before taking off my pants.

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  • MasonMason AdministratorOG

    On that note... closing this now as I don't see this moving beyond further poop flinging and the boy who cried wolf racism.

    Question has been thoroughly answered several times over anyways.

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