What are you using for incremental backups?

ChievoChievo OG
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I am using centminmod and i am looking for some way to do incremental backups for a php script website. To do moment i have been using only wordpress so i was using some back up plugins but now i would need another solution. What are you using for incremental backups?

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  • YmpkerYmpker OGContent Writer

    Many people probably are using JetBackup.
    I've also heard of some people using "rdiff".

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  • imokimok OG

    JetBackup for cPanel and BackupPC for everything else.

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  • ChievoChievo OG

    @Ympker said:
    Many people probably are using JetBackup.
    I've also heard of some people using "rdiff".

    Thanks @Ympker ! I am going to check the compatibility of centminmod with it.

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  • ChievoChievo OG

    @imok said:
    JetBackup for cPanel and BackupPC for everything else.

    Thanks @imok ! I have seen that backuppc is using apache and centminmod is Nginx :(

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  • havochavoc OG

    Borgbackup is next on my list of things to investigate.

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  • ChievoChievo OG

    @havoc said:
    Borgbackup is next on my list of things to investigate.

    Thanks @havoc ! I have checked and borg is paid option only available for premium members for centminmod. I have not tried to use it( only borg ) so i do not know if it is better than rsync. Well rsync is free and borg it is a paid option for centminmod

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  • havochavoc OG

    @Chievo said: I have checked and borg is paid option only

    Its free open source software so not sure what you're looking at there

    https://github.com/borgbackup

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  • ChievoChievo OG

    @havoc said:

    @Chievo said: I have checked and borg is paid option only

    Its free open source software so not sure what you're looking at there

    https://github.com/borgbackup

    Yes borg is open source but i am using centminmod and the option for borg is an addon only available for premium users ( so it is "paid" option).

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  • YmpkerYmpker OGContent Writer

    @Chievo said:

    @havoc said:

    @Chievo said: I have checked and borg is paid option only

    Its free open source software so not sure what you're looking at there

    https://github.com/borgbackup

    Yes borg is open source but i am using centminmod and the option for borg is an addon only available for premium users ( so it is "paid" option).

    You should still be able to setup borg manually, without the addon. It's still a regular linux server.

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  • ChievoChievo OG

    @Ympker said:

    @Chievo said:

    @havoc said:

    @Chievo said: I have checked and borg is paid option only

    Its free open source software so not sure what you're looking at there

    https://github.com/borgbackup

    Yes borg is open source but i am using centminmod and the option for borg is an addon only available for premium users ( so it is "paid" option).

    You should still be able to setup borg manually, without the addon. It's still a regular linux server.

    OK in that case i must try to install it manually thanks for the clarification :)

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  • YmpkerYmpker OGContent Writer
    edited July 2020

    @Chievo said:

    @Ympker said:

    @Chievo said:

    @havoc said:

    @Chievo said: I have checked and borg is paid option only

    Its free open source software so not sure what you're looking at there

    https://github.com/borgbackup

    Yes borg is open source but i am using centminmod and the option for borg is an addon only available for premium users ( so it is "paid" option).

    You should still be able to setup borg manually, without the addon. It's still a regular linux server.

    OK in that case i must try to install it manually thanks for the clarification :)

    You're welcome :)
    I don't think there is any way Centminmod would be able to prevent you from using Borg Backup afaik. It's like if you have a WordPress plugin and certain features are only available for premium. If you code a plugin which covers the missing features yourself, or find another plugin/solution (in this case Borg) to do the job, it'll still work.

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  • sgheghelesgheghele

    I really, really enjoy Duplicacy. Command line is free for personal use.

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  • vyasvyas OGRetired

    @sgheghele said:
    I really, really enjoy Duplicacy. Command line is free for personal use.

    You mean
    https://www.duplicati.com/
    ?

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  • ChievoChievo OG

    @vyas said:

    @sgheghele said:
    I really, really enjoy Duplicacy. Command line is free for personal use.

    You mean
    https://www.duplicati.com/
    ?

    I guess he means https://duplicacy.com if i am not wrong

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  • havochavoc OG

    @vyas said:

    @sgheghele said:
    I really, really enjoy Duplicacy. Command line is free for personal use.

    You mean
    https://www.duplicati.com/
    ?

    I've used this & was overall happy. Heard horror stories about restoring big backups (it taking weeks) though hence me wanting to look at borg next

  • sgheghelesgheghele

    @vyas said:

    @sgheghele said:
    I really, really enjoy Duplicacy. Command line is free for personal use.

    You mean
    https://www.duplicati.com/
    ?

    @Chievo said:

    @vyas said:

    @sgheghele said:
    I really, really enjoy Duplicacy. Command line is free for personal use.

    You mean
    https://www.duplicati.com/
    ?

    I guess he means https://duplicacy.com if i am not wrong

    Yup. Duplicacy. Works well, encrypted, fast, uses snapshots when available.

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    Learnt something new
    Thanks

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  • tetechtetech OG
    edited July 2020

    @havoc said:

    @vyas said:

    @sgheghele said:
    I really, really enjoy Duplicacy. Command line is free for personal use.

    You mean
    https://www.duplicati.com/
    ?

    I've used this & was overall happy. Heard horror stories about restoring big backups (it taking weeks) though hence me wanting to look at borg next

    Borg is good. Very happy with it. Quite fast for large numbers of small files.

    For VMs, for a few years I've been using a rsync script, and then creating a hardlinked copy each day. This means linux takes care of all the incremental stuff.

    But generally these days, I'm taking an incremental btrfs snapshot of the entire container. I'm sending all logs to a centralized rsyslog server, so the snapshots tend to be small. Might not help the OP with centminmod though.

  • tehdartherertehdartherer OG

    I'm also using borg to push backups over from everywhere.
    It has plenty of useful features.

    There is also https://restic.net/ but haven't tested it yet.

  • UnixfyUnixfy OG

    I'm using UpdraftPlus for my WordPress sites, and Veeam Backup & Replication for my servers. Works great, and deploying the Veeam agent to each server is as simple as pasting an IP address in the B&R console :)

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  • tetechtetech OG

    @Unixfy said:
    I'm using UpdraftPlus for my WordPress sites, and Veeam Backup & Replication for my servers. Works great, and deploying the Veeam agent to each server is as simple as pasting an IP address in the B&R console :)

    What sort of servers (i.e. RAM, disk)? I found Veeam to be heavy on the resources, but could be I have lower-end stuff.

  • UnixfyUnixfy OG

    @tetech said: What sort of servers (i.e. RAM, disk)? I found Veeam to be heavy on the resources, but could be I have lower-end stuff.

    The Veeam agent is very light in my experience. I have installed on my local machine (Ryzen 4500U, 8GB RAM) as well as many of my servers (with RAM ranging from 512M-8GB). Usually the B&R Console shows the bottleneck as my backup target anyways, and I haven't observed high CPU usage on backup source machines while backups are running.

  • tetechtetech OG

    @Unixfy said:

    @tetech said: What sort of servers (i.e. RAM, disk)? I found Veeam to be heavy on the resources, but could be I have lower-end stuff.

    The Veeam agent is very light in my experience. I have installed on my local machine (Ryzen 4500U, 8GB RAM) as well as many of my servers (with RAM ranging from 512M-8GB). Usually the B&R Console shows the bottleneck as my backup target anyways, and I haven't observed high CPU usage on backup source machines while backups are running.

    Interesting. Thanks for sharing the datapoint. From memory (it has been a while) my issue was with de-duplication of some quite large files, and it being very slow when doing a synthetic full backup.

  • foxonefoxone OG

    I just use Proxmox Backup Server

  • jadenjaden OG

    +1 for duplicacy (backing up to Wasabi).

    I also create a daily rclone snapshot to BackBlaze B2 for redundancy.

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  • sgheghelesgheghele

    @jaden said:
    +1 for duplicacy (backing up to Wasabi).

    I also create a daily rclone snapshot to BackBlaze B2 for redundancy.

    Same, in addition to incremental with Duplicacy I have a daily rclone copy to 1fichier :+1: (encrypted 7z).

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  • YmpkerYmpker OGContent Writer

    @sgheghele said:

    @jaden said:
    +1 for duplicacy (backing up to Wasabi).

    I also create a daily rclone snapshot to BackBlaze B2 for redundancy.

    Same, in addition to incremental with Duplicacy I have a daily rclone copy to 1fichier :+1: (encrypted 7z).

    Good old 1Fichier :)

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  • sgheghelesgheghele

    @Ympker said:

    @sgheghele said:

    @jaden said:
    +1 for duplicacy (backing up to Wasabi).

    I also create a daily rclone snapshot to BackBlaze B2 for redundancy.

    Same, in addition to incremental with Duplicacy I have a daily rclone copy to 1fichier :+1: (encrypted 7z).

    Good old 1Fichier :)

    Guess whose recommendation I followed, almost two years ago, to get multiple years of it? :-) I'll keep an eye on Koofr, if they ever discount their 1TB again (maybe for Black Friday).

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  • rcy026rcy026

    @tehdartherer said:
    I'm also using borg to push backups over from everywhere.
    It has plenty of useful features.

    There is also https://restic.net/ but haven't tested it yet.

    I'm using restic, and I must say I really like it. It's lightweight, easy to use, efficient and very scriptable.

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  • vyasvyas OGRetired
    edited July 2020

    @sgheghele said:

    @jaden said:
    +1 for duplicacy (backing up to Wasabi).

    I also create a daily rclone snapshot to BackBlaze B2 for redundancy.

    Same, in addition to incremental with Duplicacy I have a daily rclone copy to 1fichier :+1: (encrypted 7z).

    Any resources or How Tos for doing this?
    (backup via rclone --> I use pCloud and Duplicacy for b2)
    Thanks in advance

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