Hello @BlaZe - if you might be so kind, please do also contribute a random number to this thread, so as to help ensure the perceived integrity of our arbitrarily pseudo-random selection process
EDIT: a single digit would do just fine by the way
@yng68bld said:
This is nice. I just barely joined the forum to get some low end boxes for VPN and now a nice prize to add to my stack. Really nice Xmas gift for my daughter to learn more about the world of linux VPS and the awesome shell commands.
Always delighted to hear young kids showing interest in tech.
@yng68bld said:
This is nice. I just barely joined the forum to get some low end boxes for VPN and now a nice prize to add to my stack. Really nice Xmas gift for my daughter to learn more about the world of linux VPS and the awesome shell commands.
Hmm, looks a bit like a prime number but it isn't. But if you divide it by 523, you get 159895747457733045773006933561251156133034186992484863721323947119553122235237740871427465841979859612916936469718407958946175829305183562024354091751001267462703410664222353728430345500706877568995673600092531069551885760474749510294020373360379923437433600653
which as everyone knows is prime!
Hmm, looks a bit like a prime number but it isn't. But if you divide it by 523, you get 159895747457733045773006933561251156133034186992484863721323947119553122235237740871427465841979859612916936469718407958946175829305183562024354091751001267462703410664222353728430345500706877568995673600092531069551885760474749510294020373360379923437433600653
which as everyone knows is prime!
What if you remove the last 7 digits? (A bit of pi potassium)
Okay so ... since the purpose of this numerical stone soup is primarily to get "buy-in" from potentially otherwise skeptical participants, let's keep the opportunity to for more people to add their magic numbers open for the duration
when we get to member 600 signed up, I'll take all the numbers suggested prior to that point (starting with @notty's "4") - concatenate the digits into an ascii string - and compute the sha256sum of that string. Then @FAT32 can prepend that hash to his original (unhashed, secret) string for the 600 drawing and use that as a seed for the random number generator as per the code he posted earlier. My expectation is that this methodology shouldl be easily recognized as a way to add a relatively unpredictable salt to the secret string.
And so on once we've reached 700, 800, 900, and 999 signups - with the grand concatenation always starting from @notty's "4"
If anyone wants to add more than one number, I'll allow it. (For example, so far we've got two numbers from @dahartigan, very prem!) ... keep 'em coming folks, in plaintext ascii form por favor!
@BlaZe - the prize for "real signup" number 200 was none other than the perfectly timed and also very lucky @FAT32 - and you may wonder why the prize was won by profile number 221 rather than 200 - that was due to eliminating a number of test accounts created during early development phase of the forum.
After that there was some further discussion and some good suggestions, from which the concensus decision emerged to both simplify and complicate the selection process ....
The simplification was to just use the raw signup count as a trigger for selecting a new winner (at 300, 400, 500, 600, 700, 800, 900, and 999) - no longer bothering to account for any "testing" or otherwise bogus signups
The complication was that the winner would be randomly selected from the signups at that point. This was seen as a way to encourage people to sign up sooner rather than later - whereas before there might have been some attempt to finesse the timing when signing up, if one were waiting to snipe the exact slot already predetermined as the next winner.
Now here we are, enjoying yet another wrinkle in the process for random selection. This is both a response to and continuation of a bit of trolling about trust and transparency. I am obviously likely to be a bit biased now but I do think it's been working out just fine lately ... if I do say so myself. Bottom line is we're having some fun witn it again - but I think it actually may now be a decent attempt at a verifiably fair and trustworthy random selection method.
230 comments, less than 30 related to the actual point of the topic, 200+ arguing about how to draw the numbers and putting more fail safes in than any countries government elections.
we're now at 600+ signups so it's time to do another random selection
the sha256 hash from the contributed digits: afb52feddaf080f980f1fbf7688f0a8df8ca0dbaecfb6e32a554006dbdc8bff7
@FAT32 - I'd like to use the randomizer and seed you setup earlier, but now prepending these user-contributed moar random bits "afb52feddaf080f980f1fbf7688f0a8df8ca0dbaecfb6e32a554006dbdc8bff7" to the original seed you hashed for "round 4" (selecting from 600 signups)
Assuming that this makes sense to you - when you get a chance, would you could you please run the randomizer to do the selection? And/or let me know original seed string for:
@FAT32 said:
Not sure if I should do this but these are the SHA256 hash of the random generator seed for fairness purpose, the actual seed will be announced when we hit the target.
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Please make me one of the winner, I will use it as seedbox cociu and my linux iso torrents are basically for "giving back to the community"
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Hello @BlaZe - if you might be so kind, please do also contribute a random number to this thread, so as to help ensure the perceived integrity of our arbitrarily pseudo-random selection process
EDIT: a single digit would do just fine by the way
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Always delighted to hear young kids showing interest in tech.
The all seeing eye sees everything...
Cociu's is awesome for collect linux isos
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Here is my contribution: #9
Here is my contribution: #3
83625475920394382939282626252534354657576879797069583726252424343526282929029338475756564635355466577555557773662727362528849958726611002938737189985773662882993883777388290999969070696869696968584737292848393749375636252728293993883772655267478699957777773141519
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i choose 42 for obvious reasons
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Hmm, looks a bit like a prime number but it isn't. But if you divide it by 523, you get
159895747457733045773006933561251156133034186992484863721323947119553122235237740871427465841979859612916936469718407958946175829305183562024354091751001267462703410664222353728430345500706877568995673600092531069551885760474749510294020373360379923437433600653
which as everyone knows is prime!
root@notty
What if you remove the last 7 digits? (A bit of pi potassium)
3141519
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Interesting ... without the pi-tassium it might be prime.
(Based only on running this until I got bored)
root@notty
@dahartigan ... prem
@notty I thank you for doing the needful
Okay so ... since the purpose of this numerical stone soup is primarily to get "buy-in" from potentially otherwise skeptical participants, let's keep the opportunity to for more people to add their magic numbers open for the duration
when we get to member 600 signed up, I'll take all the numbers suggested prior to that point (starting with @notty
's "4") - concatenate the digits into an ascii string - and compute the sha256sum of that string. Then @FAT32 can prepend that hash to his original (unhashed, secret) string for the 600 drawing and use that as a seed for the random number generator as per the code he posted earlier. My expectation is that this methodology shouldl be easily recognized as a way to add a relatively unpredictable salt to the secret string.And so on once we've reached 700, 800, 900, and 999 signups - with the grand concatenation always starting from @notty
's "4"If anyone wants to add more than one number, I'll allow it. (For example, so far we've got two numbers from @dahartigan, very prem!) ... keep 'em coming folks, in plaintext ascii form por favor!
Thanks!
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I choose you #200 !
@uptime #200 is still available?
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@BlaZe - the prize for "real signup" number 200 was none other than the perfectly timed and also very lucky @FAT32 - and you may wonder why the prize was won by profile number 221 rather than 200 - that was due to eliminating a number of test accounts created during early development phase of the forum.
You can catch up with that ancient history of this thread going alllll the way back to around November 19th - ie, https://talk.lowendspirit.com/discussion/comment/2777#Comment_2777
After that there was some further discussion and some good suggestions, from which the concensus decision emerged to both simplify and complicate the selection process ....
The simplification was to just use the raw signup count as a trigger for selecting a new winner (at 300, 400, 500, 600, 700, 800, 900, and 999) - no longer bothering to account for any "testing" or otherwise bogus signups
The complication was that the winner would be randomly selected from the signups at that point. This was seen as a way to encourage people to sign up sooner rather than later - whereas before there might have been some attempt to finesse the timing when signing up, if one were waiting to snipe the exact slot already predetermined as the next winner.
Now here we are, enjoying yet another wrinkle in the process for random selection. This is both a response to and continuation of a bit of trolling about trust and transparency. I am obviously likely to be a bit biased now but I do think it's been working out just fine lately ... if I do say so myself. Bottom line is we're having some fun witn it again - but I think it actually may now be a decent attempt at a verifiably fair and trustworthy random selection method.
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230 comments, less than 30 related to the actual point of the topic, 200+ arguing about how to draw the numbers and putting more fail safes in than any countries government elections.
people need to chill the **** out, haha.
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@cociu provide the cheap vps man
We need external auditors and 3 witnesses to watch @uptime press the button ?
I suggest at least 7 and 3 external auditors to pick each one of the 7
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@beagle you have submit number 42 citizen. Is good. Please feel free add more number. Makes better secure theater processing!
But who will audit the auditors ...?
EDIT: I am to mean #9 for @beagle - is better, most secure theater!
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If you're still taking number suggestions: 2240 (the comic currently on the front page)
I pick #13 just to keep the ball rolling.
@cociu Thank you for gracious offers to community, happy new year 2020, wish you all the best with business.
we're now at 600+ signups so it's time to do another random selection
the sha256 hash from the contributed digits: afb52feddaf080f980f1fbf7688f0a8df8ca0dbaecfb6e32a554006dbdc8bff7
@FAT32 - I'd like to use the randomizer and seed you setup earlier, but now prepending these user-contributed moar random bits "afb52feddaf080f980f1fbf7688f0a8df8ca0dbaecfb6e32a554006dbdc8bff7" to the original seed you hashed for "round 4" (selecting from 600 signups)
Assuming that this makes sense to you - when you get a chance, would you could you please run the randomizer to do the selection? And/or let me know original seed string for:
Thanks!
notes:
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