Hmm should I keep this OneProvider server

Amadex · August 2022

I've already got and OVH server from SoYouStart series
(SYS-3-SSD-32 / E3 1245v5 / 32GB DDR4 / 2x480GB SSD / 250Mbps Network / RBX 🇫🇷 / 28.99€ month)

The real question is, should I switch from OVH to Online.net/OneProvider?

Today I've bought a server from OneProvider, for the first time (I know a lot of negative reviews, saw them), and this is what I've got for 24.99€ in PAR 🇫🇷.

Xeon E3-1220 v2 or better (got the better one haha), 32GB DDR3, 2 x 1TB SSD, 1 Gbps Unmetered, 1 Gbps Guaranteed.

root@sd-166707:~# curl -sL yabs.sh | bash
# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
#              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
#                     v2022-08-17                    #
# https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #

Wed 17 Aug 2022 05:40:15 PM CEST

Basic System Information:
---------------------------------
Uptime     : 0 days, 0 hours, 20 minutes
Processor  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1240 V2 @ 3.40GHz
CPU cores  : 8 @ 1631.999 MHz
AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
RAM        : 31.3 GiB
Swap       : 0.0 KiB
Disk       : 937.7 GiB
Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
Kernel     : 5.10.0-17-amd64

fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):
---------------------------------
Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
Read       | 82.32 MB/s   (20.5k) | 159.33 MB/s   (2.4k)
Write      | 82.54 MB/s   (20.6k) | 160.17 MB/s   (2.5k)
Total      | 164.86 MB/s  (41.2k) | 319.51 MB/s   (4.9k)
           |                      |
Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
Read       | 131.56 MB/s    (256) | 143.52 MB/s    (140)
Write      | 138.55 MB/s    (270) | 153.08 MB/s    (149)
Total      | 270.11 MB/s    (526) | 296.60 MB/s    (289)

iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
---------------------------------
Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed
                |                           |                 |
Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 621 Mbits/sec   | 937 Mbits/sec
Online.net      | Paris, FR (10G)           | busy            | busy
Hybula          | The Netherlands (40G)     | 937 Mbits/sec   | 937 Mbits/sec
Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 880 Mbits/sec   | 893 Mbits/sec
Clouvider       | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 889 Mbits/sec   | 891 Mbits/sec
Clouvider       | Dallas, TX, US (10G)      | 467 Mbits/sec   | 866 Mbits/sec
Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 834 Mbits/sec   | 848 Mbits/sec

iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):
---------------------------------
Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed
                |                           |                 |
Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 924 Mbits/sec   | 924 Mbits/sec
Online.net      | Paris, FR (10G)           | 929 Mbits/sec   | 929 Mbits/sec
Hybula          | The Netherlands (40G)     | 925 Mbits/sec   | 922 Mbits/sec
Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 875 Mbits/sec   | 883 Mbits/sec
Clouvider       | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 397 Mbits/sec   | 878 Mbits/sec
Clouvider       | Dallas, TX, US (10G)      | 853 Mbits/sec   | 855 Mbits/sec
Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 809 Mbits/sec   | 839 Mbits/sec

Geekbench 5 Benchmark Test:
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Test            | Value
                |
Single Core     | 890
Multi Core      | 3453
Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/16690857

root@sd-166707:~# smartctl --attributes "/dev/sda" | grep Power_On_Hours
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   100   100   ---    Old_age   Always       -       3549
root@sd-166707:~# smartctl --attributes "/dev/sdb" | grep Power_On_Hours
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   100   100   ---    Old_age   Always       -       3549

https://disk.lol/view/a00b966aec8d3a2d9fb2ac84bd07a38c7b439b1c3bbf8a0b5b43d37bd78a7d7d/_dev_sda/1
https://disk.lol/view/a00b966aec8d3a2d9fb2ac84bd07a38c7b439b1c3bbf8a0b5b43d37bd78a7d7d/_dev_sdb/1

yoursunny · August 2022

When in doubt, idle cancel.

Amadex · August 2022

@yoursunny said:
When in doubt, idle cancel.

This is how I feel right now, thinking to transfer my Proxmox OVH things to Proxmox OpenProvider, but I'm lazyyyyyyyyyy

vyas · August 2022

@Amadex said:

@yoursunny said:
When in doubt, idle cancel.

This is how I feel right now

She needs more practice

CamoYoshi · August 2022

Pros for the SoYouStart/OVH system:

Better CPU performance (E3-1240v2 GB5 MultiCore: 3294 vs. E3-1245v5 GB5 MultiCore: 4245)
- Sources:
- https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/15913880 - https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/15876732
DDR4 RAM = Faster Memory = performance uplift depending on workload
Probably better support than OneProvider?

Pros for the OneProvider/Online.Net system:

Better network (their claim of unmetered 1Gbps is legitimate in my experience)
Bigger and likely newer SSDs
Slightly better price

So, I would ask myself these questions, with consideration for future growth/changes:

Do I need 1Gbps of network throughput?
Do I need 1TB SSDs for additional storage?
Do I need the improved CPU performance and increase memory speed for my workloads?
How likely will I need assistance from support in the future?

Hope this helps.

vish · August 2022

keep it, cancel ovh. 250mbps has no place in today's world.

Amadex · August 2022

@CamoYoshi said: So, I would ask myself these questions, with consideration for future growth/changes:

Do I need 1Gbps of network throughput?
Do I need 1TB SSDs for additional storage?
Do I need the improved CPU performance and increase memory speed for my workloads?
How likely will I need assistance from support in the future?

1. Everyone likes 1Gbps unmetered
2. My NextCloud instance will love 1TB SSDs
3. I will cry becase of that
4. Their support is quick, they responded in 10 minutes after the ticket was created (verification, additional IPs). OVH is not that quick, you need to call them for quick support.

@vish
I agree, I hate that 250Mbps and the SSD drives are 4-5 years old.

AlwaysSkint · August 2022

SYS = no additional IP at a one-off cost vs. OP = additional IP at a typical provider's fee.
(If important at all to you.)

Amadex · August 2022

@AlwaysSkint said:
SYS = no additional IP at a one-off cost vs. OP = additional IP at a typical provider's fee.
(If important at all to you.)

2 IP at OP will cost me 10€ total, so with the server 34.99€ per month total.

I don't know. The OVH network and the 250Mbps... and 5 yo ssd's. Imagine running 5 vms with 5 free IPs on the fckn 250Mbps. That's slap in the face.

I'm running a chat website, people are sending pics, voice messages, etc. Idk.

The money is not a problem in this up to 35€ range, I would just like to have peace of minds for the future.

Hetzner is going to rise prices for 10%, maybe on IPs too. So France providers have better deal in low end range.

Nekki · August 2022

Fuck off OVH, they're shitcunts.

Amadex · August 2022

I'm trying to convince myself that I don't need 16 free IP addresses that are mostly blacklisted to have them on a 250Mbps network.

Nekki · August 2022

@Amadex said:
I'm trying to convince myself that I don't need 16 free IP addresses that are mostly blacklisted to have them on a 250Mbps network.

Maybe just convince yourself that you don't want to contribute to a bottom-of-the-barrel providers continued domination of the EU budget server space. FUCK. THOSE. CUNTS. RIGHT. OFF.

fluttershy · August 2022

@Amadex said:
I'm trying to convince myself that I don't need 16 free IP addresses that are mostly blacklisted to have them on a 250Mbps network.

They won't be free for long anyways. They're beginning to charge a monthly fee for IPV4 as well.

Amadex · August 2022

So at the end paying 34€ to OP with 2 additional IPs is better solution.

Btw. got cool IP with 9s haha.

emperor · August 2022

@Amadex said: 250Mbps

What's your home internet speed?
Also you should post yabs from ovh

ralf · August 2022

@Amadex said:
So at the end paying 34€ to OP with 2 additional IPs is better solution.

Btw. got cool IP with 9s haha.

Maybe your IP address will be better than your uptime!

ralf · August 2022

@Nekki said:
Maybe just convince yourself that you don't want to contribute to a bottom-of-the-barrel providers continued domination of the EU budget server space. FUCK. THOSE. CUNTS. RIGHT. OFF.

Now I know you're the real Nekki.

Nekki · August 2022

@ralf said:

@Nekki said:
Maybe just convince yourself that you don't want to contribute to a bottom-of-the-barrel providers continued domination of the EU budget server space. FUCK. THOSE. CUNTS. RIGHT. OFF.

Now I know you're the real Nekki.

You doubted me? Should have just asked to see my pink pancakes.

chris · August 2022

@Nekki said:

@Amadex said:
I'm trying to convince myself that I don't need 16 free IP addresses that are mostly blacklisted to have them on a 250Mbps network.

Maybe just convince yourself that you don't want to contribute to a bottom-of-the-barrel providers continued domination of the EU budget server space. FUCK. THOSE. CUNTS. RIGHT. OFF.

Eloquent, accurate and great advice

AlwaysSkint · August 2022

Oh look, LES has become LET reincarnate.

chris · August 2022

@AlwaysSkint said:
Oh look, LES has become LET reincarnate.

£200 pls

CamoYoshi · August 2022

@Amadex said:

@CamoYoshi said: So, I would ask myself these questions, with consideration for future growth/changes:

Do I need 1Gbps of network throughput?
Do I need 1TB SSDs for additional storage?
Do I need the improved CPU performance and increase memory speed for my workloads?
How likely will I need assistance from support in the future?

1. Everyone likes 1Gbps unmetered
2. My NextCloud instance will love 1TB SSDs
3. I will cry becase of that
4. Their support is quick, they responded in 10 minutes after the ticket was created (verification, additional IPs). OVH is not that quick, you need to call them for quick support.

Sounds like the move to the OneProvider/Online.net system is the right move for you, then. NextCloud doesn't typically need the best CPUs to function well, in my experience. The extra network speed will be the biggest thing you will likely notice immediately.

Erisa · August 2022

What network/provider is that on? OneProvider resells a bunch of providers (Including OVH).
From the network bench I assume it's Scaleway/Online.net but would be nice to have confirmation.

Amadex · August 2022

@Erisa said:
What network/provider is that on? OneProvider resells a bunch of providers (Including OVH).
From the network bench I assume it's Scaleway/Online.net but would be nice to have confirmation.

https://bgp.he.net/AS12876

Erisa · August 2022

@Amadex said:

@Erisa said:
What network/provider is that on? OneProvider resells a bunch of providers (Including OVH).
From the network bench I assume it's Scaleway/Online.net but would be nice to have confirmation.

https://bgp.he.net/AS12876

Ah, so this one is being resold from Scaleway. Thanks for the info!

Amadex · August 2022

@Erisa said:

@Amadex said:

@Erisa said:
What network/provider is that on? OneProvider resells a bunch of providers (Including OVH).
From the network bench I assume it's Scaleway/Online.net but would be nice to have confirmation.

https://bgp.he.net/AS12876

Ah, so this one is being resold from Scaleway. Thanks for the info!

Yw. Here's fresh yabs https://lowendspirit.com/discussion/comment/95983/#Comment_95983

Nekki · August 2022

@AlwaysSkint said:
Oh look, LES has become LET reincarnate.

I will not be oppressed.

AlwaysSkint · August 2022

@Nekki said: I will not be oppressed.

Therein lies the main issue; where others follow suit.

Nekki · August 2022

@AlwaysSkint said:

@Nekki said: I will not be oppressed.

Therein lies the main issue; where others follow suit.

I have a one-time offer, just for you.

If you would like me to stop swearing on LES, simply reply to this post with the word ‘Stop’, and you will not see further profanity from me or my associated accounts. If I do slip-up, I will request that the moderators retire all my accounts immediately.

AlwaysSkint · August 2022

@Nekki said: simply reply to this post with the word ‘Stop’

Stop

ialexpw · August 2022

@AlwaysSkint said:

@Nekki said: simply reply to this post with the word ‘Stop’

Stop

@Nekki said:
FUCK.

Hmm should I keep this OneProvider server

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