128mb is pushing the limit today. When LES started as NAT project, I managed to install and use a small WordPress site on 64mb.
I would go for a 256mb if you are looking at the "usual" NAT providers.
You will have to tweak the memory usage to the extreme if you want to use more than a handful of plugins.
Thats a pretty decent plan. Will keep in mind when someone asks in Fb or some other places.
Usually there are 3 to 4 requests a week in WP or other blogging groups that go something like
“I have a blog with 6,000 visitors a month and I am hosting with GoDaddy (or name your local EIG company here)”
You can guess how the rest of the problem statement goes.
Worse are the answers. Cloudways, kinsta, Flywheel all > 20-25 dollars a month.
IMO a WP plan upto 10-12 K visitors a month should not cost more than 1 US dollar/month.
@blogger32 said:
How much RAM do you recommend for a Wordpress blog?
This would be NAT IPv4.
Also any recommendation for hosting?
Any particular reason for using NAT?
If a VPS is a must do then read up a post in the All things WP discussion on options.
256 MB Ram
10 GB HDD
1 vcpu @ 2.5 Ghz
Webinoly
Are more than adequate
@Ympker said
Get some good old shared hosting for cheap at Smallweb or Nexusbytes and see how that performs first, perhaps. May be much more convenient
Smallweb works great for a small web site (I need to claim copyright on that statement) @SmallWeb
How many plugins?
How busy is your website going to be?
How heavy is your theme?
How about caching ?
I have a checklist of 12 questions that vary from type of site to CDN. But I got tired of asking the same set of questions before making any suggestions.
@blogger32 said:
How much RAM do you recommend for a Wordpress blog?
This would be NAT IPv4.
Also any recommendation for hosting?
Any particular reason for using NAT?
If a VPS is a must do then read up a post in the All things WP discussion on options.
256 MB Ram
10 GB HDD
1 vcpu @ 2.5 Ghz
Webinoly
Are more than adequate
@Ympker said
Get some good old shared hosting for cheap at Smallweb or Nexusbytes and see how that performs first, perhaps. May be much more convenient
Smallweb works great for a small web site (I need to claim copyright on that statement) @SmallWeb
Thats a pretty decent plan. Will keep in mind when someone asks in Fb or some other places.
Usually there are 3 to 4 requests a week in WP or other blogging groups that go something like
“I have a blog with 6,000 visitors a month and I am hosting with GoDaddy (or name your local EIG company here)”
You can guess how the rest of the problem statement goes.
Worse are the answers. Cloudways, kinsta, Flywheel all > 20-25 dollars a month.
IMO a WP plan upto 10-12 K visitors a month should not cost more than 1 US dollar/month.
(Sorry about the rant!)
(Judging only by face value here, since I haven't used any of these.. other than GCP but not for WP :P)
'A is expensive thus bad and B is cheap thus good?' Sorry, even though this is LES, I have to say IMO it's a bit more nuanced than that... as in, there is a reason why they all cost what they do.
I'm by no way a WP expert, but here is my quick impression based on the face value* of their price lists:
*So I can't tell e.g. if their support answers are fast and accurate, or how good their CDN is
Cloudways is managed hosting with dedicated resources giving you more for more $$ ('All Plans Come With' or the table under 'Standing out with Our Innovation and Simplicity' - among others, staging environment, ssh access, monitoring, backups, 24/7 support, many locations ...) - esp. DO seems to be a good deal, and it's a minimum of 10 dollars a month, not >20 https://www.cloudways.com/en/pricing.php
Finally, kinsta have all the features of 2 and even more, on top of that the most locations and most likely also the best speeds thanks GCP and their premium bandwidth*, but all that for a price https://kinsta.com/plans/
*technically, GCP/AWS are available at Cloudways too, but the monthly prices exclude bandwidth so I'd stay away from them
Based on this, I'd say there are up to three* different models at work here:
*Cloudways <---> Kinsta distance <<< SpryServers <---> Cloudways distance
$: Hobby sites / non-commercial sites for somewhat tech capable individuals / students with enough time and not enough money
$$: Hobby sites for non-techies / beginning pro bloggers / other money making ventures (a balance between 1. and 3., if you will)
$$$: Established probloggers / other making machines, up to large enterprises (your [employees'] time is worth / XX+ dollars an hour, so it's cheaper to outsource managing the infrastructure completely here and just focus on the design/content while providing lightning speeds to your customer base)
Thats a pretty decent plan. Will keep in mind when someone asks in Fb or some other places.
Usually there are 3 to 4 requests a week in WP or other blogging groups that go something like
“I have a blog with 6,000 visitors a month and I am hosting with GoDaddy (or name your local EIG company here)”
You can guess how the rest of the problem statement goes.
Worse are the answers. Cloudways, kinsta, Flywheel all > 20-25 dollars a month.
IMO a WP plan upto 10-12 K visitors a month should not cost more than 1 US dollar/month.
(Sorry about the rant!)
(Judging only by face value here, since I haven't used any of these.. other than GCP but not for WP :P)
'A is expensive thus bad and B is cheap thus good?' Sorry, even though this is LES, I have to say IMO it's a bit more nuanced than that... as in, there is a reason why they all cost what they do.
I'm by no way a WP expert, but here is my quick impression based on the face value* of their price lists:
*So I can't tell e.g. if their support answers are fast and accurate, or how good their CDN is
Cloudways is managed hosting with dedicated resources giving you more for more $$ ('All Plans Come With' or the table under 'Standing out with Our Innovation and Simplicity' - among others, staging environment, ssh access, monitoring, backups, 24/7 support, many locations ...) - esp. DO seems to be a good deal, and it's a minimum of 10 dollars a month, not >20 https://www.cloudways.com/en/pricing.php
Finally, kinsta have all the features of 2 and even more, on top of that the most locations and most likely also the best speeds thanks GCP and their premium bandwidth*, but all that for a price https://kinsta.com/plans/
*technically, GCP/AWS are available at Cloudways too, but the monthly prices exclude bandwidth so I'd stay away from them
Based on this, I'd say there are up to three* different models at work here:
*Cloudways <---> Kinsta distance <<< SpryServers <---> Cloudways distance
$: Hobby sites / non-commercial sites for somewhat tech capable individuals / students with enough time and not enough money
$$: Hobby sites for non-techies / beginning pro bloggers / other money making ventures (a balance between 1. and 3., if you will)
$$$: Established probloggers / other making machines, up to large enterprises (your [employees'] time is worth / XX+ dollars an hour, so it's cheaper to outsource managing the infrastructure completely here and just focus on the design/content while providing lightning speeds to your customer base)
And...
Make the same recommendations no matter the use case because you earn affiliate income. The user’s real needs be damned.
So while your 3 points may be valid, the fourth unfortunately overrides them all. Thus validating your ‘face value’ point
In answer to the question, why NAT, the answer is I was trying to get the cost as low as possible, and I understood this was the cheapest way. This blog is mainly for learning purposes for me, and I don't expect many visitors. But I see several people have mentioned that shared hosting might be just as affordable and much easier to use, as it would allow me to concentrate on Wordpress instead of on server administration.
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128mb you can host about thousands of static sites
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He didnt ask for static.
How much you needs depends on traffic, plugins, content and optimalisation. For a small siste, 512 is good. Scale up as you need more speed
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512 MB should be enough for a basic site. Can try 256 MB too, should work for low traffic.
though shared hosting might be much better for wordpress.
Can have a look at our NAT plans starts $7/year : https://my.webhorizon.in/order/main/index/nat they come with a decent CPU.
Shared hosting starts $3/year : https://my.webhorizon.in/order/main/index/ssd-shared
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Tbh it’s a mix goodie bag.
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Thanks, guys! 512 MB is is then.
Get some good old shared hosting for cheap at Smallweb or Nexusbytes and see how that performs first, perhaps. May be much more convenient
Ympker's VPN LTD Comparison, Uptime.is, Ympker's GitHub.
We have a NAT promo: https://billing.novos.be/store/amd-epyc-servers
No 80/443 reverse proxy yet though so you would need IPv6 + Cloudflare for IPv4.
128mb is pushing the limit today. When LES started as NAT project, I managed to install and use a small WordPress site on 64mb.
I would go for a 256mb if you are looking at the "usual" NAT providers.
You will have to tweak the memory usage to the extreme if you want to use more than a handful of plugins.
https://clients.mrvm.net
Thats a pretty decent plan. Will keep in mind when someone asks in Fb or some other places.
Usually there are 3 to 4 requests a week in WP or other blogging groups that go something like
“I have a blog with 6,000 visitors a month and I am hosting with GoDaddy (or name your local EIG company here)”
You can guess how the rest of the problem statement goes.
Worse are the answers. Cloudways, kinsta, Flywheel all > 20-25 dollars a month.
IMO a WP plan upto 10-12 K visitors a month should not cost more than 1 US dollar/month.
(Sorry about the rant!)
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Any particular reason for using NAT?
If a VPS is a must do then read up a post in the All things WP discussion on options.
256 MB Ram
10 GB HDD
1 vcpu @ 2.5 Ghz
Webinoly
Are more than adequate
Smallweb works great for a small web site (I need to claim copyright on that statement) @SmallWeb
I have a checklist of 12 questions that vary from type of site to CDN. But I got tired of asking the same set of questions before making any suggestions.
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(Judging only by face value here, since I haven't used any of these.. other than GCP but not for WP :P)
'A is expensive thus bad and B is cheap thus good?' Sorry, even though this is LES, I have to say IMO it's a bit more nuanced than that... as in, there is a reason why they all cost what they do.
I'm by no way a WP expert, but here is my quick impression based on the face value* of their price lists:
*So I can't tell e.g. if their support answers are fast and accurate, or how good their CDN is
SpryServers are OK, but it's just basic shared hosting [just like most providers on LES, AFAIR], located.. well, somewhere out there
https://www.spryservers.net/clients/cart.php?gid=14
Cloudways is managed hosting with dedicated resources giving you more for more $$ ('All Plans Come With' or the table under 'Standing out with Our Innovation and Simplicity' - among others, staging environment, ssh access, monitoring, backups, 24/7 support, many locations ...) - esp. DO seems to be a good deal, and it's a minimum of 10 dollars a month, not >20
https://www.cloudways.com/en/pricing.php
Finally, kinsta have all the features of 2 and even more, on top of that the most locations and most likely also the best speeds thanks GCP and their premium bandwidth*, but all that for a price
https://kinsta.com/plans/
*technically, GCP/AWS are available at Cloudways too, but the monthly prices exclude bandwidth so I'd stay away from them
Based on this, I'd say there are up to three* different models at work here:
*Cloudways <---> Kinsta distance <<< SpryServers <---> Cloudways distance
$: Hobby sites / non-commercial sites for somewhat tech capable individuals / students with enough time and not enough money
$$: Hobby sites for non-techies / beginning pro bloggers / other money making ventures (a balance between 1. and 3., if you will)
$$$: Established probloggers / other making machines, up to large enterprises (your [employees'] time is worth / XX+ dollars an hour, so it's cheaper to outsource managing the infrastructure completely here and just focus on the design/content while providing lightning speeds to your customer base)
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And...
So while your 3 points may be valid, the fourth unfortunately overrides them all. Thus validating your ‘face value’ point
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You didn't mention that part in your original post... Fail, poor newbie fish being eaten by affiliate sharks.
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Thanks, guys.
In answer to the question, why NAT, the answer is I was trying to get the cost as low as possible, and I understood this was the cheapest way. This blog is mainly for learning purposes for me, and I don't expect many visitors. But I see several people have mentioned that shared hosting might be just as affordable and much easier to use, as it would allow me to concentrate on Wordpress instead of on server administration.
This conversation illustrates the point well
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And
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