Searching for a VPS for Proxmox Backup Server
Hello,
Im currently searching for a good VPS for Proxmox Backup Server. This would need:
- 2x CPU
- 4GB RAM ECC
- 1TB Storage (doesn't need to be SSD, but it needs good I/O)
- 1Gbit connection, 4TB Bandwidth
- Location: Europe, or just somewhere with good connection to Hetzners Falkenstein location
- Price: 8-10€/Month, 6-Month contract period when needed
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PBS is an amazing piece of software; even for backups of other stuff than virtual machines. And, while I see that you just want to fulfil the officially recommended system requirements for PBS, I fear that combination of price and requirements is a bit unrealistic. (Especially, since the combination of 4 GB RAM and 1 TB storage might be unusual for storage servers.)
Alwyzon - Virtual Servers in Austria starting at 4,49 €/month (excl. VAT)
I use a OnePovider server in France, for my PBS
Intel Atom C2350 - 1.7 GHz - 2 core(s)
4GB - DDR3
1x 1TB (HDD SATA)
Bandwidth Unmetered @ 1Gbps
Recurring Amount $8.33 USD (though probably a special deal.)
It works well enough.
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I have this exact server for testing (for 6€/Month). Problem is, this server is pretty slow on I/O, and its just one HDD. When someone knows how to transfer this server to another user, im happy to do so.
Of course, there are possibilities in terms of price. Im currently orienting on Contabos Offering for 16€ / VPS 1400. Problem is, i have pretty bad experiences with Contabo, since they oversold my booked nodes like mad.
I get your point regarding redundancy, but what kind of disk I/O rates would you be looking for? Intel Atom sounds like a dedi, that should already give you fast disk I/O solely because it's a non-shared disk.
Alwyzon - Virtual Servers in Austria starting at 4,49 €/month (excl. VAT)
Something like this could work maybe ?
4 GB RAM
2 CPU Cores
1000 GB Disk Space
4 TB bandwidth @ 1 Gbit/s
1 IPv4 + /64 of IPv6
Located at Frankfurt, Germany
KVM based
At $12/month,
https://crowncloud.net/clients/cart.php?a=add&pid=541
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Can recommend Backblaze B2 for backup purposes, if a VM isn't a must. Running daily backups towards them since they don't care about inbound bandwidth usage.
Looks good, thanks ^^
Although i probably dont need 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 Ipv6 addresses ?
Proxmox Backup Server is not compatible with S3 storages (yet?).
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Thanks for the mtnion @ehab
We could do the spec you need in Hetzners Finland DC - these are HDD based they've got good IO (I'll dig out a YABS if it helps).
I can't get this into 10eur/month budget though, so if you can be a little flexible then perfect - you'd be looking at £10.50/month = approx 12.40eur.
https://billing.novos.be/cart.php?a=confproduct&i=1
€14/mo if you want I can throw in 4096 MB RAM.
This is Ceph triple replicated SATA storage. Expandable and very reliable. The nvme is triple rep as well.
2 months free with yearly payment. We have proxmox backup server as ISO to mount.
Btw you will also get HA in case of node failure
Since all the offers here already ask for compromises, let's continue with another suggestion: the production recommendation for PBS bare-metal installations is 4 GB, but that likely includes some of it for the memory-hungry RAID-Z2 (as also recommended in the same section of the documentation). But, there is no need for ZFS on a VPS as the hypervisor already handles disk redundancy. So, how about risking the minimum recommendation of 2 GB RAM instead? That would allow you to stay below your 10 €/month threshold:
Storage Server 2T: 8,70 € per month for…
✓ 2 GB DDR4 ECC Memory
✓ 2 vCore Intel® Xeon® Silver CPU
✓ 2 TB HDD Storage (RAID 6/Cached)
✓ 1000 Mb/s Up- and Downlink
✓ Location: Vienna, Austria
✓ Powered by KVM & Proxmox
✓ 1x IPv4 + /64 IPv6 included
✓ 8 TB Monthly Unthrottled Bandwidth
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(All prices excl. VAT)
Custom ISOs (for the PBS installer) can be uploaded over the client area too. YABS is attached below, but that doesn't tell you much about the real-world disk I/O as it just benches the cache. Disks are SAS-3 HDDs (Western Digital Ultrastars) behind Dells flagship RAID controller, the PERC H740P with a small battery-backed cache, running in RAID6 configuration. Hetzner is locally present at the Vienna Internet Exchange, so the connectivity towards Falkenstein should be top-notch too (Looking Glass).
This is a YABS of the Storage Server 1T, the smaller brother of the 2T:
Alwyzon - Virtual Servers in Austria starting at 4,49 €/month (excl. VAT)
could you sent a YABS?
Thanks for the offer!
Problem is, the 2GB RAM only work when you just use it to store the data and not extract it. When you want to use the file-level extraction features in the web-interface, the RAM-Usage instantly shoots well above 2GB RAM, even without ZFS
maybe if you give a good time joke to @alwyzon he can bump the ram for same price.
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@alwyzon are you in this?
Oh, I see. Sorry, but in that case I can't be of much help. The setup of the storage servers uses local SAS disks, so RAM and disk storage is always linked. Can't offer you more RAM without more disk space, otherwise utilisation of these nodes would be inefficient.
Alwyzon - Virtual Servers in Austria starting at 4,49 €/month (excl. VAT)
no worries @cyagon there will be other chances to be free
Sure thing!,
Also,
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For Contabo you can nowadays pretty easily change nodes. Just shoot them an email and they will change it in milliseconds. When I had a node change i had only 3 seconds of downtime. Also don't forget to ask them to unlock disk speeds.
NexusBytes might be a great option,
https://nexusbytes.com/storage-vps
Very cheap pricing.
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@cyagon
I just installed PBS on a VPS with a single 3TB disk and it looks like it used all of it to install the OS.
How does one split out the disk so it can be used for backup storage?
Never mind, I figured it out. I had to use lvm commands to reduce the root volume and then created a new volume for backup storage. I then mounted this volume to a mount point and used this path to add as data store. Everything is working smoothly now.
That price is far away from special, it has been sold for 1.99€ at Online or 4.99€ at OneProvider.
Keep an eye on it, so you can swap and save some moneys.
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I have the Scaleway/Online 1.99€ one too.
Never managed to grab the OneProvider (steal) deals so far.
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