Ipv6 / Ipv4 & Dual Stacking

hostarts

Hello

In the future as web hosts, are we supposed to have & provide VMs or servers with Dual Stack ? Or the plan is to actually dump IPV4 which is currently still impossible due to multiple reasons.

chocolateshirt

IPv4 will win for sure..
For best availability, I always use dual stack when available..

yoursunny

We don't do IPv4 and IPv6 anymore.
We only offer IPv9.
https://yoursunny.com/p/summer-host/ipv9/

Amadex

1. I buy server.
2. I open ticket for disabling IPv6 at provider level.
3. I install OS and use my server.

I don't have need for that IP6 crap.

hostarts

@Amadex said:
1. I buy server.
2. I open ticket for disabling IPv6 at provider level.
3. I install OS and use my server.

I don't have need for that IP6 crap.

What about providers such as Hetzner who charge a lot for IPV4 and are willing to push everyone to ipv6 alone

terrorgen

For me, no proper IPv6 support = bad host

Amadex

@hostarts said:

@Amadex said:
1. I buy server.
2. I open ticket for disabling IPv6 at provider level.
3. I install OS and use my server.

I don't have need for that IP6 crap.

What about providers such as Hetzner who charge a lot for IPV4 and are willing to push everyone to ipv6 alone

I skip them, there is a bunch of other providers. Hetzner is not the only one provider on the Earth.

mfs

As a rule of thumb, if a provider doesn't support IPv6 (they still exist here and there, and especially here) I simply skip them. Having a /64 per server is overly convenient. I've skipped a regional, cheap provider for this sole reason.

Being able to dismiss IPv4 on at least some servers (if there's some money to be saved with that, and there's money to be saved for sure from now on) it's a nice plus.

I don't expect we'll ever ditch IPv4: it's the jpeg of the Internet Protocols. Even if there's a new format that may have more interesting features, you'll have to support it, at least somewhere and somehow. Still, this doesn't mean we can't take advantage of IPv6: there are quite a few scenarios where it comes in handy.

spiritlhl

Whether it's only IPV6 or IPV4, I tend to use Cloudflare's warp to add the missing one to them.

spiritlhl

@yoursunny said:
We don't do IPv4 and IPv6 anymore.
We only offer IPv9.
https://yoursunny.com/p/summer-host/ipv9/

I almost believed it, if you didn't have a monthly quote on the page.

yoursunny

@spiritlhl said:

@yoursunny said:
We don't do IPv4 and IPv6 anymore.
We only offer IPv9.
https://yoursunny.com/p/summer-host/ipv9/

I almost believed it, if you didn't have a monthly quote on the page.

I can't take annual payment.
If you deliver a big pile of 🥭 to my doorstep, I can't eat them all in a short period of time.

rcy026

@hostarts said:
Hello

In the future as web hosts, are we supposed to have & provide VMs or servers with Dual Stack ? Or the plan is to actually dump IPV4 which is currently still impossible due to multiple reasons.

It depends on your definition of "future".
In the nearest decades? No. Prepare to dual stack or use some kind of proxy between the two protocols, at least on public facing services. I dropped IPv4 internally years ago, but since people are slow as molasses when it comes to adapting to something new I still have to run IPv4 on some public services.

hostarts

@rcy026 said:

@hostarts said:
Hello

In the future as web hosts, are we supposed to have & provide VMs or servers with Dual Stack ? Or the plan is to actually dump IPV4 which is currently still impossible due to multiple reasons.

It depends on your definition of "future".
In the nearest decades? No. Prepare to dual stack or use some kind of proxy between the two protocols, at least on public facing services. I dropped IPv4 internally years ago, but since people are slow as molasses when it comes to adapting to something new I still have to run IPv4 on some public services.

It is the issue, we won't be adapting quick enough.