@VirMach said:
Still won't be a terrible deal since we're doing baseline non-Ryzen costs and providing Ryzen. I'm pretty sure it'll still beat the competitor's Ryzen pricing without the coupon.
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AMD
Intel
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EPYC
Xeon Scalable
junk
Opteron
E3,E5,Atom
Don't worry we're going all Epyc after these, I've lost too many braincells and marbles with these ASRock amateur boards. Never again. And it'll be cheaper, plus maybe we'll even do something interesting like another control panel that supports IPv6 + IPv4 NAT out the box, just for you.
Okay maybe I'm promising too much, what I can say for certain is all purchases in the near future will be Epyc.
So, virmach will announce NAT VPS? I love IPv6 + NAT.
@VirMach you do also realise there is no way to pay for <20 usd service with paypal or credit/debit card for non eu/us users we are forced to add 20usd credit in order to buy anything
@codelock said: @VirMach you do also realise there is no way to pay for <20 usd service with paypal or credit/debit card for non eu/us users we are forced to add 20usd credit in order to buy anything
Yea I noticed credit and paypal were removed at checkout (Im in Canada). Thanks @codelock, I was trying to avoid buying an Atlanta server (didn't get one during flash sale) and no credit/paypal at checkout was my only excuse not to get one.. Now that credit cards have been added back I HAVE to buy one...
@VirMach said: *A little exception to this, the following have not been provisioned:
12 quantity for DALZ010 offer, 4GB RAM / 4 Core / 130GB Disk
1 quantity for NYCB041 offer (node is having problems still)
OK. seems I'm that 1 person waiting for NYCB041 vps to deploy
I caught this earlier today, but more than 1 are waiting for that. It broke in a weird way where I didn't track it properly when I output that number. It's probably closer to a dozen for that too.
Non-existent Epyc Tokyo pre-order, still haven't decided if it's a good or bad idea. Leaning toward bad, might just send it first but I wanted to gauge the level of interest somehow so we know if we have to build more and to get all the orders pre-screened.
Non-existent Epyc Tokyo pre-order, still haven't decided if it's a good or bad idea. Leaning toward bad, might just send it first but I wanted to gauge the level of interest somehow so we know if we have to build more and to get all the orders pre-screened.
This looks good, but I'm a new user, do I have to pay the extra $10? It doesn't look like a good deal.
Non-existent Epyc Tokyo pre-order, still haven't decided if it's a good or bad idea. Leaning toward bad, might just send it first but I wanted to gauge the level of interest somehow so we know if we have to build more and to get all the orders pre-screened.
This looks good, but I'm a new user, do I have to pay the extra $10? It doesn't look like a good deal.
I think Virmach was joking (31st of Febuary should have given that away).
@VirMach said: *A little exception to this, the following have not been provisioned:
12 quantity for DALZ010 offer, 4GB RAM / 4 Core / 130GB Disk
1 quantity for NYCB041 offer (node is having problems still)
OK. seems I'm that 1 person waiting for NYCB041 vps to deploy
I caught this earlier today, but more than 1 are waiting for that. It broke in a weird way where I didn't track it properly when I output that number. It's probably closer to a dozen for that too.
@ruikno said: This looks good, but I'm a new user, do I have to pay the extra $10? It doesn't look like a good deal.
And february has no 31st.
New user, as in you have no services with us?
@DanSummer said: I think Virmach was joking (31st of Febuary should have given that away).
Sadly it wasn't a clever joke, I actually wrote that without thinking. It was originally 25th and I wanted to move it to the end of the month and then my brain malfunctioned and I wrote 31st.
@VirMach said:
New user, as in you have no services with us?
Actually I'm a beginner, when I just started learning VPS, I witnessed the legend of you and MJJs.
I would like to experience the VPS with Ryzen in Tokyo, if you don't welcome customers from China, then I can only buy V.PS.
@erk said:
For the level of technology and investment, I thought they'd have bandwidth to spare.
This is just a huge guess but I assume they have cheap internet at high speeds for consumers, and most of it probably stays within the region (e.g, servers from Japan to customers in Japan.) Once it has to head out elsewhere is probably where it becomes expensive and it's most expensive for the carriers that have a good connection to China probably due to supply/demand.
Cheapest I've seen it is $400/1Gbit but probably awful routing to China, I assume mainly for Tokyo --> Los Angeles/Singapore. Actually I just double checked and yep, only goes to Hong Kong, South Korea, and San Jose with that carrier.
Then a mix of the cheapest above with some NTT, Vodafone, and Softbank (but probably for local routes) is $500-600/1Gbit
IIJ is way more expensive. I assume Softbank to China is probably the most expensive.
What makes bandwidth so limited in Japan?
I'll answer this part more specific to us. IIJ = Good network to China = higher usage. We have several times more usage for the same bandwidth allocation to customers, more than anticipated, when we kept the levels the same for plans across all locations. We also got a lot of abuse, unfortunately, as a result of the plans trading hands and being used for mass file sharing. For example, one guy that ended up eventually getting suspended for other breaches was basically streaming videos to hundreds if not thousands of people and selling this service to others (so also I/O abuse, and he was also multi-account, and it was most likely sold by scalper.) Finally, the 95th is highly skewed. It goes from almost no usage to a lot of usage for maybe 1/4th or 1/3rd of the day, so higher peaks, higher 95th. This means 600Mbps to 1Gbps of average usage turns into 1.7Gbps to 2.3Gbps billed usage. Aka, it gets bottlenecked. They might have a lot of bandwidth but the fibers get saturated during peak hours and sit empty the rest of the time.
@erk said:
What makes bandwidth so limited in Japan?
For the level of technology and investment, I thought they'd have bandwidth to spare.
Island? International transit via submarine cables.
Yeah underwater cables go insanely expensive to China. I really don't remember the quote I received a long time ago anymore but it was probably something like $20,000 a month for 100Mbps private cable (not literally a new cable but I guess a dedicated share on an existing cable.) Just to get it to China, no actual carriers on either end, you'd have to add that on as well. I could be off by a lot.
That ends up being top-notch though basically GFW bypass as far as that goes, front of the line.
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I am too
So, virmach will announce NAT VPS? I love IPv6 + NAT.
MicroLXC is lovable.
Just curious, how did you manage to make the IPv6 announce as your name ?
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Mentally strong people obtain their own RIPE ASN.
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Not sure of the issue here but if it is capacity and If it is works for you - I am ok with any location in US West (preferably Seattle)
https://yoursunny.com/p/AS200690/
what provider offers free bgp sessions sir?
I’m a simple man I see gifs, I press thanks
Can you tell how you did it? I mean the procedure and cost? (And service provider of you used one)
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https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3548079/#Comment_3548079 (probably)
Contribute your idling VPS/dedi (link), Android (link) or iOS (link) devices to medical research
Me, too, I presume. Feel a little bit privileged, though.
@VirMach you do also realise there is no way to pay for <20 usd service with paypal or credit/debit card for non eu/us users we are forced to add 20usd credit in order to buy anything
Want free vps ? https://microlxc.net
Alipay, Coinbase
I'll go ahead and allow credit/debit.
Yea I noticed credit and paypal were removed at checkout (Im in Canada). Thanks @codelock, I was trying to avoid buying an Atlanta server (didn't get one during flash sale) and no credit/paypal at checkout was my only excuse not to get one.. Now that credit cards have been added back I HAVE to buy one...
OK. seems I'm that 1 person waiting for NYCB041 vps to deploy
sue!!!!!!111
Haven't bought a single service in VirMach Great Ryzen 2022 - 2023 Flash Sale.
https://lowendspirit.com/uploads/editor/gi/ippw0lcmqowk.png
why?
I caught this earlier today, but more than 1 are waiting for that. It broke in a weird way where I didn't track it properly when I output that number. It's probably closer to a dozen for that too.
Additional 30% promo removed. Prices updated.
Non-existent Epyc Tokyo pre-order, still haven't decided if it's a good or bad idea. Leaning toward bad, might just send it first but I wanted to gauge the level of interest somehow so we know if we have to build more and to get all the orders pre-screened.
such a troll
Haven't bought a single service in VirMach Great Ryzen 2022 - 2023 Flash Sale.
https://lowendspirit.com/uploads/editor/gi/ippw0lcmqowk.png
This looks good, but I'm a new user, do I have to pay the extra $10? It doesn't look like a good deal.
And february has no 31st.
I think Virmach was joking (31st of Febuary should have given that away).
I feel less special now.
Roger, roger.
It wisnae me! A big boy done it and ran away.
NVMe2G for life! until death (the end is nigh)
New user, as in you have no services with us?
Sadly it wasn't a clever joke, I actually wrote that without thinking. It was originally 25th and I wanted to move it to the end of the month and then my brain malfunctioned and I wrote 31st.
Yeah, yeah. That happens a lot, eh?
It wisnae me! A big boy done it and ran away.
NVMe2G for life! until death (the end is nigh)
Actually I'm a beginner, when I just started learning VPS, I witnessed the legend of you and MJJs.
I would like to experience the VPS with Ryzen in Tokyo, if you don't welcome customers from China, then I can only buy V.PS.
What makes bandwidth so limited in Japan?
For the level of technology and investment, I thought they'd have bandwidth to spare.
Island? International transit via submarine cables.
@VirMach Sir please help my ticket #224384
This is just a huge guess but I assume they have cheap internet at high speeds for consumers, and most of it probably stays within the region (e.g, servers from Japan to customers in Japan.) Once it has to head out elsewhere is probably where it becomes expensive and it's most expensive for the carriers that have a good connection to China probably due to supply/demand.
Cheapest I've seen it is $400/1Gbit but probably awful routing to China, I assume mainly for Tokyo --> Los Angeles/Singapore. Actually I just double checked and yep, only goes to Hong Kong, South Korea, and San Jose with that carrier.
Then a mix of the cheapest above with some NTT, Vodafone, and Softbank (but probably for local routes) is $500-600/1Gbit
IIJ is way more expensive. I assume Softbank to China is probably the most expensive.
I'll answer this part more specific to us. IIJ = Good network to China = higher usage. We have several times more usage for the same bandwidth allocation to customers, more than anticipated, when we kept the levels the same for plans across all locations. We also got a lot of abuse, unfortunately, as a result of the plans trading hands and being used for mass file sharing. For example, one guy that ended up eventually getting suspended for other breaches was basically streaming videos to hundreds if not thousands of people and selling this service to others (so also I/O abuse, and he was also multi-account, and it was most likely sold by scalper.) Finally, the 95th is highly skewed. It goes from almost no usage to a lot of usage for maybe 1/4th or 1/3rd of the day, so higher peaks, higher 95th. This means 600Mbps to 1Gbps of average usage turns into 1.7Gbps to 2.3Gbps billed usage. Aka, it gets bottlenecked. They might have a lot of bandwidth but the fibers get saturated during peak hours and sit empty the rest of the time.
Yeah underwater cables go insanely expensive to China. I really don't remember the quote I received a long time ago anymore but it was probably something like $20,000 a month for 100Mbps private cable (not literally a new cable but I guess a dedicated share on an existing cable.) Just to get it to China, no actual carriers on either end, you'd have to add that on as well. I could be off by a lot.
That ends up being top-notch though basically GFW bypass as far as that goes, front of the line.
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