Debian bookworm released

edited June 2023 in General

It seems that on June 10th the new Debian will be released
Source 👉 https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2023/04/msg00007.html

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  • edited May 2023

    Please write again when it actually happens!

    (That's still more than one month from now)

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  • Rust, php8, python 3.11...
    CANNOT WAIT!

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  • edited May 2023

    @dwight said:
    Rust, php8, python 3.11...
    CANNOT WAIT!

    "Quando paratus est" 👉 "When it's ready"

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  • I get notification that @superdelight and @Neoon have commented in this thread but I don’t see their posts

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  • @carlin0 said:
    I get notification that @superdelight and @Neoon have commented in this thread but I don’t see their posts

    Boooooooooo CENSORSHIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!

    @superdelight tried to virmach this thread.

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  • @Neoon said:
    @superdelight tried to virmach this thread.

    He got banned.... What happened here?!?

  • @somik said:

    @Neoon said:
    @superdelight tried to virmach this thread.


    He got banned.... What happened here?!?

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  • edited May 2023

    Wait for another 6 months until it become stable / production ready


    Debian Gnome supposedly still don't have tray bar by default

    Yo, join our premium masochist club

  • cybertechcybertech OGBenchmark King

    @Flying_Chinaman said:
    Wait for another 6 months until it become stable / production ready


    Debian Gnome supposedly still don't have tray bar by default

    Yo Debian is the definition of production!

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  • somiksomik OG
    edited May 2023

    @cybertech said:

    @Flying_Chinaman said:
    Wait for another 6 months until it become stable / production ready


    Debian Gnome supposedly still don't have tray bar by default

    Yo Debian is the definition of production!

    I prefer ubuntu. Didn't really understand the difference since ubuntu is based on debian...

    For me, ubuntu seems to work slightly better for regular use however for my websites hosted with Virtualmin control panel, debian seems to be more stable...

    FYI, ubuntu is already on PHP 8.1

  • @somik said:
    I prefer ubuntu. Didn't really understand the difference since ubuntu is based on debian...

    For me, ubuntu seems to work slightly better for regular use however for my websites hosted with Virtualmin control panel, debian seems to be more stable...

    FYI, ubuntu is already on PHP 8.1

    Ubuntu does tend to get updates to packages more quickly than even debian unstable. When the branch changes to stable, the version tends to stay fixed, so by the time it's in stable every package is usually a version that's been in the wild for a year already.

  • @ralf said:

    @somik said:
    I prefer ubuntu. Didn't really understand the difference since ubuntu is based on debian...

    For me, ubuntu seems to work slightly better for regular use however for my websites hosted with Virtualmin control panel, debian seems to be more stable...

    FYI, ubuntu is already on PHP 8.1

    Ubuntu does tend to get updates to packages more quickly than even debian unstable. When the branch changes to stable, the version tends to stay fixed, so by the time it's in stable every package is usually a version that's been in the wild for a year already.

    Explains why debian is seen as more stable. If the packages has been out for 1 year, all the bugs are known/fixed by the time debian uses it.

  • @cybertech said: Yo Debian is the definition of production!

    Yo, RHEL is the most suitable.

    @somik said: I prefer ubuntu.

    I prefer Ubuntu LTS on my laptop cuz it saved me lots of time for fixing hardware driver kind of stuff

    PC though I choose Debian

    Yo, join our premium masochist club

  • @Flying_Chinaman said:
    Debian Gnome supposedly still don't have tray bar by default

    Debian doesn’t care about graphic bullshit, Debian is the structure

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  • somiksomik OG
    edited May 2023

    @Flying_Chinaman said:

    @cybertech said: Yo Debian is the definition of production!

    Yo, RHEL is the most suitable.

    Redhat is used by industries. I had chance to use Oracle Linux which is based on Redhat. Honestly it felt like using CentOS (also redhat based) but did not have the unstability with software updates that Centos 6 and 7 had. That is the reason I moved from centos to debian/ubuntu base.

    @Flying_Chinaman said:

    @somik said: I prefer ubuntu.

    I prefer Ubuntu LTS on my laptop cuz it saved me lots of time for fixing hardware driver kind of stuff

    PC though I choose Debian

    I was using Ubuntu Mate as my daily driver, but after i got the new laptop with built in Windows 11, I had been using it at least for the duration of warrenty. With a proper firewall, windows 11 isn't that bad.

    @carlin0 said:

    @Flying_Chinaman said:
    Debian Gnome supposedly still don't have tray bar by default

    Debian doesn’t care about graphic bullshit, Debian is the structure

    Agree, debian is mostly used as headless. For GUI, use Ubuntu or it's derivatives.

  • "From the diamonds nothing is born, from the manure the flowers are born ..."
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  • Debian 12 should be available on 2023-06-10 according to this:
    https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2023/04/msg00007.html

    How long after will it take for @natvps_uk to offer a template of Debian 12?

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  • Slightly confused as to why everyone is so hyped for this one

  • @havoc said:
    Slightly confused as to why everyone is so hyped for this one

    Debian, Thx.

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  • @havoc said:
    Slightly confused as to why everyone is so hyped for this one

    Some people are so new to this that they don't realise how uneventful apt-get dist-upgrade is...

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  • @havoc said:
    Slightly confused as to why everyone is so hyped for this one

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  • mwtmwt
    edited May 2023

    @ralf said:

    @havoc said:
    Slightly confused as to why everyone is so hyped for this one

    Some people are so new to this that they don't realise how uneventful apt-get dist-upgrade is...

    It can be pretty eventful if you have been holding off installing any backports. I upgraded recently and some of my things really are a lot snappier. PHP 7 -> 8 is probably the biggest that I've noticed.

    I noticed since new features in ejabberd as well which save me some workaround efforts I had in place before.

  • natvps_uknatvps_uk Hosting Provider
    edited May 2023

    @yoursunny said:
    Debian 12 should be available on 2023-06-10 according to this:
    https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2023/04/msg00007.html

    How long after will it take for @natvps_uk to offer a template of Debian 12?

    Once it’s officially released I’ll add the template if it makes @yoursunny happy!

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  • cybertechcybertech OGBenchmark King

    are we there yet?

    I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.

  • @cybertech said:
    are we there yet?

    Almost, almost .... Puuuush!

  • Eh, either its the beer or something is broken.
    Wanted to already add the images to microlxc, however it refused to add them.

    I call the an exorcist, will solve this quick.

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  • What?! Codename 'bookworm'?
    This has to be the stupidest distro name, ever.
    I mean seriously...
    I want the next release after this one to be called 'dickcheese'.

  • @Janevski said:
    What?! Codename 'bookworm'?
    This has to be the stupidest distro name, ever.
    I mean seriously...

    For better or for worse, Debian codenames are based on the names of characters from the Toy Story films

    I want the next release after this one to be called 'dickcheese'.

    No worries, won't happen!

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