I must be careful next time. I didn't mean any harm.
I have no problem with you. I was saying that it was my responsibility to clean up stuff like that.
Of course it would save me some work if you did not do it.
@nutjob said:
What is a person thinking when they have 26 services with VirMach and open a dispute for $11 (or any amount)?
I didn't know paypal would charge extra as penality on the seller, the sole purpose of dispute was to get my refund from virmach, as I thought he was too busy to reply my ticket, so I did it to save everybody's time, I wouldn't do it if I knew paypal charges him extra for that.
@nutjob said:
What is a person thinking when they have 26 services with VirMach and open a dispute for $11 (or any amount)?
I didn't know paypal would charge extra as penality on the seller, the sole purpose of dispute was to get my refund from virmach, as I thought he was too busy to reply my ticket, so I did it to save everybody's time, I wouldn't do it if I knew paypal charges him extra for that.
Generally speaking when you raise a dispute with any vendor, unless it's fraud or another egregious problem, you have about a 90% chance of being permanently banned by the vendor.
@nutjob said:
What is a person thinking when they have 26 services with VirMach and open a dispute for $11 (or any amount)?
I expect all of us have made a bonehead mistake in the past, I know I have made more than one personally. I think the key here is to see if @LowLevelChan will pay the $60 required for the mistake to be corrected. $60 is a chunk of change to pay for a $11 mistake and if he is willing to do so I think that probably sets him apart from the average mjj. Just my 2 cents.
@nutjob said:
What is a person thinking when they have 26 services with VirMach and open a dispute for $11 (or any amount)?
I expect all of us have made a bonehead mistake in the past, I know I have made more than one personally. I think the key here is to see if @LowLevelChan will pay the $60 required for the mistake to be corrected. $60 is a chunk of change to pay for a $11 mistake and if he is willing to do so I think that probably sets him apart from the average mjj. Just my 2 cents.
A dispute is forcibly taking money from someone you paid. Is that not intuitive? It's like going back into a cafe and taking the money you left on the table after you leave. People usually do it in anger.
Yes everyone makes mistakes, obviously you live and learn, but even so I'd be cautious if I had 26 services. Maybe that's just me.
@FrankZ Excuse me, what should I do with the tagged one like me? The main reason is that I don't know why this is marked. I have two accounts. One account purchased three flash purchase activities, all of which have been refunded. When I bought the current $24.6 vps on January 2, the original account could not be paid, and then I re-registered the account again. Does this also belong to multiple accounts? So what should I do? Please help me.
@taoqi said:
re-registered the account again. Does this also belong to multiple accounts?
Regardless of the reason, it's definitely multiple accounts.
So what should I do? Please help me.
Stay away from VirMach. I know you want to buy from VirMach, but VirMach doesn't seem to welcome you, at least to me.
I don't know if it will be refunded, but even if it isn't, it's better to think of it as a study fee for you.
@nutjob said:
What is a person thinking when they have 26 services with VirMach and open a dispute for $11 (or any amount)?
I expect all of us have made a bonehead mistake in the past, I know I have made more than one personally. I think the key here is to see if @LowLevelChan will pay the $60 required for the mistake to be corrected. $60 is a chunk of change to pay for a $11 mistake and if he is willing to do so I think that probably sets him apart from the average mjj. Just my 2 cents.
A dispute is forcibly taking money from someone you paid. Is that not intuitive? It's like going back into a cafe and taking the money you left on the table after you leave. People usually do it in anger.
Yes everyone makes mistakes, obviously you live and learn, but even so I'd be cautious if I had 26 services. Maybe that's just me.
Hey, I get it. My rule of thumb is I don't do charge backs on any provider, unless they deadpool. Of course I, like you, have been around these forums for ~10 years, so we know the results of doing PayPal charge backs. I don't know how long @LowLevelChan has been around the LE* forums, but it seems not long enough to learn this lesson the easy way.
@taoqi said:
re-registered the account again. Does this also belong to multiple accounts?
Regardless of the reason, it's definitely multiple accounts.
So what should I do? Please help me.
Stay away from VirMach. I know you want to buy from VirMach, but VirMach doesn't seem to welcome you, at least to me.
I don't know if it will be refunded, but even if it isn't, it's better to think of it as a study fee for you.
@taoqi - I'll just quote the above since that is pretty much where I think you are at IMO.
Sorry for your loss.
@nutjob said:
What is a person thinking when they have 26 services with VirMach and open a dispute for $11 (or any amount)?
I expect all of us have made a bonehead mistake in the past, I know I have made more than one personally. I think the key here is to see if @LowLevelChan will pay the $60 required for the mistake to be corrected. $60 is a chunk of change to pay for a $11 mistake and if he is willing to do so I think that probably sets him apart from the average mjj. Just my 2 cents.
A dispute is forcibly taking money from someone you paid. Is that not intuitive? It's like going back into a cafe and taking the money you left on the table after you leave. People usually do it in anger.
Yes everyone makes mistakes, obviously you live and learn, but even so I'd be cautious if I had 26 services. Maybe that's just me.
Hey, I get it. My rule of thumb is I don't do charge backs on any provider, unless they deadpool. Of course I, like you, have been around these forums for ~10 years, so we know the results of doing PayPal charge backs. I don't know how long @LowLevelChan has been around the LE* forums, but it seems not long enough to learn this lesson the easy way.
I have never charged back in all the years I have been using PayPal. It is just not something I do, of course it is never a huge amount I funnel through it either.
People learn in different ways and if he has learned from it I see no harm in him continuing. He is willing to pay the price for the mistake and not just scream about it. Seems to me is just an average customer then.
@VirMach What should I do now to unlock my account? I can pay for unlocking my account. I didn't mean to do this. I just want to buy a flash purchase service.
@AuroraZero said: I have never charged back in all the years I have been using PayPal. It is just not something I do, of course it is never a huge amount I funnel through it either.
People learn in different ways and if he has learned from it I see no harm in him continuing. He is willing to pay the price for the mistake and not just scream about it. Seems to me is just an average customer then.
I am not talking about this particular case but opening case with paypal is not the same as escalating dispute to the claim. Some sellers actually prefer to deal with refunds that way ("open case and we will accept it") instead of going through transactions to refund it.
Things usually get nasty if both parties can't find agreement or seller does not respond and case get escalated to the claim. Before this seller have all the chances to communicate via paypal with buyer or just click refund button.
It's always better to solve issue with seller directly, obviously, but sometimes this just isn't possible, they ignore you or something.
VirMach said: No that's just the standard MJJ quoting a long random post instead of just scrolling down to empty reply box.
Should be a banable offence ]:(
Do you mean bannable? What's wrong with you?
Mod edit: Let's not start this again. I answered that comment in a way that should have made it clear that it was not something a member should be banned for, and told the OP that he had done nothing wrong.
You have misunderstood. The point was that AlwaysSkint misspelled an English word.
VirMach said: No that's just the standard MJJ quoting a long random post instead of just scrolling down to empty reply box.
Should be a banable offence ]:(
Do you mean bannable? What's wrong with you?
Mod edit: Let's not start this again. I answered that comment in a way that should have made it clear that it was not something a member should be banned for, and told the OP that he had done nothing wrong.
You have misunderstood. The point was that AlwaysSkint misspelled an English word.
Oh crap, I'll change it back. Catching @AlwaysSkint misspelling an English word should be commended not criticized, sorry about that.
I am an old customer, flash sale I bought a lot of vps this year, because it is too difficult to turn the page of one account, so just registered a few new accounts， then yesterday you all remember it for me, , it is suspended @VirMach
@Shakespeare said:
I am an old customer, flash sale I bought a lot of vps this year, because it is too difficult to turn the page of one account, so just registered a few new accounts， then yesterday you all remember it for me, , it is suspended @VirMach
@VirMach As I saw in the previous message, the account can be recovered for $25. Some people have received a $25 bill, and I can also pay $25 to recover the account. I really didn't mean to create an additional account, and there is nothing on another account.
@taoqi said: @VirMach As I saw in the previous message, the account can be recovered for $25. Some people have received a $25 bill, and I can also pay $25 to recover the account. I really didn't mean to create an additional account, and there is nothing on another account.
Are you talking about LowLevelChan? Because he's not multi-account. He disputed a payment.
@Shakespeare said:
I am an old customer, flash sale I bought a lot of vps this year, because it is too difficult to turn the page of one account, so just registered a few new accounts， then yesterday you all remember it for me, , it is suspended @VirMach
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I must be careful next time. I didn't mean any harm.
I have no problem with you. I was saying that it was my responsibility to clean up stuff like that.
Of course it would save me some work if you did not do it.
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What is a person thinking when they have 26 services with VirMach and open a dispute for $11 (or any amount)?
Generally speaking when you raise a dispute with any vendor, unless it's fraud or another egregious problem, you have about a 90% chance of being permanently banned by the vendor.
I expect all of us have made a bonehead mistake in the past, I know I have made more than one personally. I think the key here is to see if @LowLevelChan will pay the $60 required for the mistake to be corrected. $60 is a chunk of change to pay for a $11 mistake and if he is willing to do so I think that probably sets him apart from the average mjj. Just my 2 cents.
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A dispute is forcibly taking money from someone you paid. Is that not intuitive? It's like going back into a cafe and taking the money you left on the table after you leave. People usually do it in anger.
Yes everyone makes mistakes, obviously you live and learn, but even so I'd be cautious if I had 26 services. Maybe that's just me.
@FrankZ Excuse me, what should I do with the tagged one like me? The main reason is that I don't know why this is marked. I have two accounts. One account purchased three flash purchase activities, all of which have been refunded. When I bought the current $24.6 vps on January 2, the original account could not be paid, and then I re-registered the account again. Does this also belong to multiple accounts? So what should I do? Please help me.
Regardless of the reason, it's definitely multiple accounts.
Stay away from VirMach. I know you want to buy from VirMach, but VirMach doesn't seem to welcome you, at least to me.
I don't know if it will be refunded, but even if it isn't, it's better to think of it as a study fee for you.
Hey, I get it. My rule of thumb is I don't do charge backs on any provider, unless they deadpool. Of course I, like you, have been around these forums for ~10 years, so we know the results of doing PayPal charge backs. I don't know how long @LowLevelChan has been around the LE* forums, but it seems not long enough to learn this lesson the easy way.
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@taoqi - I'll just quote the above since that is pretty much where I think you are at IMO.
Sorry for your loss.
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I have never charged back in all the years I have been using PayPal. It is just not something I do, of course it is never a huge amount I funnel through it either.
People learn in different ways and if he has learned from it I see no harm in him continuing. He is willing to pay the price for the mistake and not just scream about it. Seems to me is just an average customer then.
"I would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for that meddling Frankz and Mason!!"
@VirMach What should I do now to unlock my account? I can pay for unlocking my account. I didn't mean to do this. I just want to buy a flash purchase service.
I am not talking about this particular case but opening case with paypal is not the same as escalating dispute to the claim. Some sellers actually prefer to deal with refunds that way ("open case and we will accept it") instead of going through transactions to refund it.
Things usually get nasty if both parties can't find agreement or seller does not respond and case get escalated to the claim. Before this seller have all the chances to communicate via paypal with buyer or just click refund button.
It's always better to solve issue with seller directly, obviously, but sometimes this just isn't possible, they ignore you or something.
Do you mean bannable? What's wrong with you?
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just realized i collected 4 powerful enough vps to start using one for production and rest to swap in case main goes down. how would you do it?
I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.
@FrankZ I really don't know what to do.
i suggest you search for a new provider if you really don't understand the terms and can't follow his rules.
I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.
@VirMach so i paid for some redundancy and now have 4 VMs on the same node.
any way to spread them out?
I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.
You have misunderstood. The point was that AlwaysSkint misspelled an English word.
@VirMach I already know it now, so I'm trying to make up for my mistake. I can pay a $25 management fee.
Oh crap, I'll change it back. Catching @AlwaysSkint misspelling an English word should be commended not criticized, sorry about that.
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Maybe https://virmach.com/vps-price-match-refugee-offers/ ... "Did your last VPS host leave you hanging?" ... And BOOM! Refugee Virmach Offer Inception
I am an old customer, flash sale I bought a lot of vps this year, because it is too difficult to turn the page of one account, so just registered a few new accounts， then yesterday you all remember it for me, , it is suspended @VirMach
i need cheap vps year payment .
This... What does it mean?
so, old customer finally get caught?
I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.
@VirMach As I saw in the previous message, the account can be recovered for $25. Some people have received a $25 bill, and I can also pay $25 to recover the account. I really didn't mean to create an additional account, and there is nothing on another account.
Are you talking about LowLevelChan? Because he's not multi-account. He disputed a payment.
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